Potential Hall of Famers, Part II

Potential Hall of Famers, Part II

Baltimore Orioles Quiz (1954 – ): [We”ll hit most teams by end

of July, with an occasional diversion thrown in.] 1) Highest

batting average, season? [Two players; one in the 70s, the other

the 90s, and it”s only .328…amazingly.] 2) Most games won by

a pitcher, season? 3) Most RBI, season? 4) Last Oriole 20-game

winner? Answers below.

Johnny Mac”s Hall of Fame Picks…continued

[All stats as of start of the season]

Tampa Bay Devil Rays: Well, this should be a shorter list than

the Yankees. Actually, the only player on the roster who could

be suggested without giggling is the old crime dog, Fred

McGriff. He has somewhat quietly put together a rather

impressive career. 417 homers, almost 1300 ribbies, 1100 runs

scored and a career .286 average. Plus, McGriff has won 2 home

run titles, has accumulated 6 100+ RBI campaigns, and has 5

post-season appearances. Not too shabby. He will probably

need to reach 500 homers to merit consideration, but I will admit

to being a little surprised at how good his numbers really are.

Toronto Blue Jays: A young team with some impressive talent,

but no one as yet has established himself. The closest is Carlos

Delgado, who is coming off two monster seasons. I was

surprised to see he is already 29 years old (in June), so it will be

tough for him to reach the career milestones we normally

associate with the Hall of Fame. I wouldn”t state that with 100%

certainty, but it won”t be easy.

Chicago White Sox: They have two tough ones…Harold Baines

and the Big (“I”m always freakin””) Hurt (Frank Thomas).

Baines has just been around forever, putting up numbers at every

stop. His best day was when they instituted the DH rule, and he

must be judged in that light. He hasn”t played the field on a

regular basis since 1986. And he has never really been the big

star along the way. A valuable guy, sure, reliable RBI man, good

in the clubhouse, the very definition of “professional hitter.” But

does that a Hall of Famer make?? I say no. His career numbers

will look good, I”ll grant you.he might get 3,000 hits, might hit

400 dingers, already has over 1600 RBIs. Those are impressive

under any light. But I draw the line with Harold. He is not a

HOF player and never has been. He is very good, I would like

him on my team, but he is not great. Maybe this will be the guy

to test the old theory of “certain election” for reaching various

milestones. We will see.

Frank Thomas, now there is an interesting case. He started off

like a first-ballot lock; putting up numbers that, while not unique,

have only been reached by the likes of Gehrig or Ted Williams.

His combination of power, high average and great eye rivaled the

all-time greats. He routinely led the league in on-base

percentage, while picking up 2 MVP trophies. Then came 1998

and 1999. While not complete washouts, they were certainly

below standard and raised legitimate concerns over his

dedication and long-term future. He was always a big guy, but

his weight became more of an issue as his production fell. But

Thomas rebounded to have a great year in 2000, setting career

highs in homers, runs and RBIs. Then he got a bit mouthy this

spring with regards to his contract and has gotten off to a slow,

injury prone start this season. I don”t know…at 33, looking a bit

brittle and DH”ing more and more, he is a tough bet. Three years

ago he looked like a lock, but no more. He needs to right the

ship a bit.

Cleveland Indians: Three guys here. One obvious, the other two

not so. Starting with the obvious, Robby Alomar, this is one

terrific player. Nine Gold Glove awards, hits for average, draws

walks, scores a ton of runs, has excellent situational power, steals

bases. I don”t see how you keep him out. And he”s only 33.

Alomar has also been an excellent post-season player to boot. If

he could have prevented himself from expectorating on that ump,

he would also have a pretty good image. Dates tennis pro Mary

Pierce, for what that”s worth. [Ed. One strike against him.] You

tell me, but I rate him pretty high. Behind Morgan, Gehringer,

Collins, and Hornsby.who else would you put ahead of him?

One of the less obvious is Omar Vizquel. He has been

overshadowed by the collection of talent at shortstop, but what a

good player. He has won 8 straight Gold Gloves, he hits for a

decent average, draws some walks, scores runs, steals some

bases, hits a good number of doubles. And his best two seasons

have been his last two. He is 34 and doesn”t seem to be slowing

down in the least. Can you state for certain that he isn”t the

Ozzie Smith of today? He might fall short of enshrinement, but

let me tell you.there are far less talented players at his position

with plaques at Cooperstown right now.

And then there is Juan Gonzalez. He is a RBI machine, I”ll give

him that. At his age, he could eventually hit 550 and drive in

1800. But he”s such a chronic complainer and lousy outfielder

that it”s easy to leave him off out of spite. I also still feel he

racks up big numbers in meaningless games against weak

teams, but stats are stats, I guess.

Detroit Tigers: Nada, zip, zilch, no one.

Kansas City Royals: See above.

Minnesota Twins: See Tigers and Royals.

Oakland Athletics: This is getting redundant. For those of you

enamored of reigning MVP Jason Giambi, here are the facts. He

is already 30 years old, he trains on burritos, and his career

numbers are 149 homers and 555 ribbies. Unless something

drastic happens, he will have a shortish career with some good

years, but far short of immortality.

Anaheim / California? Angels: Whatever they are. I don”t

know. Mo Vaughn is way too brittle and Troy Glaus is way too

young. Check back in 4 or 5 years. [Ed. If we are writing about

this in 5 years, that would be an excellent sign…know what I”m

sayin”?]

Seattle Mariners: Well, they have certainly gone through a

couple of future Hall of Fame residents in recent years, huh?

Hasn”t hurt them much in the standings though. They have one

interesting player, Edgar Martinez. This guy is 38 and seems to

get better every year. A couple of batting titles, a great RBI guy,

steady leader.this guy can hit. Too bad he got such a late start

(he didn”t play regularly until he was 27) and injuries killed his

”93 campaign, otherwise, who knows what might have been. It

is extremely doubtful that he can post the career numbers, but he

has been as good a hitter over the last 6 years as anyone else.

Texas Rangers: An embarrassment of Latino riches. Too bad

none of them can pitch. They have perhaps the greatest shortstop

in history, yet he is arguably only the second best guy on the

team named Rodriguez. Let”s start with A-Rod. He is 25 years

old and has already played over 800 games. He hits .300 every

year, drives in and scores well over 100, slugs .560+, has stolen

as many as 46 in a season and plays an excellent shortstop. What

he may eventually accomplish boggles the mind. He could easily

play another 12 years or more. It sounds silly for a slightly built

shortstop, but he could actually hit 650+ homers if he stays

healthy. That”s ridiculous. Look, it”s still early, but this kid is

the goods.could be among the real all-time greats when he is

through. If this Texas team ever puts a pitching staff together, he

might eventually get some rings also.

The other Rodriguez, Ivan, is also something special. Only 29,

he is in his tenth full season as a regular. For some perspective,

Jorge Posada, who many consider an up and coming young

catcher, is a few months older than Ivan. You may argue the

point, but all things considered, he may be the best defensive

catcher ever. Arm, mobility, speed, baseball smarts.that”s a

tough combination to beat. Nine seasons, nine Gold Gloves.

And, oh yeah, he can hit a little too. Lifetime over .300, he has

hit over .320 the last three years. Plus, Ivan belts 25 homers,

drives in and scores runs, and can even steal a base. The knock

on him is that he rarely takes a walk, but with his high BA he

still has an on-base average near .350. The 1999 MVP, he was

well on his way to bettering that campaign when an injury ended

his season after 91 games. In that span, he had already hit 27

homers, driven in 83, and was batting .347 while slugging a

Ruthian .667. Rodriguez is another player with a real chance to

be arguably the best ever at his position.

The other two Rangers with a shot are in the latter stages of their

careers.Andres Galarraga and Rafael Palmeiro. Each has had

their best years late in his 30s, and Palmeiro, especially, just

seems to get better with age. Galarraga might have followed the

same path, had he not lollygagged that year he took off to beat

cancer.

Palmeiro was considered a slap hitter when he came up with the

Cubs, and he hit only 8 and 14 homers in his first two seasons

with the Rangers. He must have eaten his Wheaties or

something, because he broke out with 26 the next year and

progressed until he hit 47 in 1999. He has driven in over 100

seven times and picked up three Gold Gloves along the way.

Still productive at 36, he entered the year with 400 homers, 1347

ribbies, and a .296 average. A few more years at or near his

current established production, and he may be hard to ignore.

The Big Cat (Galarraga) is slightly more problematic. A good

player for years with the Expos, he spent an injury-plagued season

with the Cardinals before he landed in hitter-happy Colorado. At

age 32, he really started to put up numbers, albeit in the rarified

air of the Rockies. Now 40, he probably doesn”t have too much

left, and his career stats will leave him a bit short of

Cooperstown.

[We”ll continue with a look at the NL, Friday.]

Top 3 songs for the week of 5/10/75: #1 “He Don”t Love You

(Like I Love You)” (Tony Orlando and Dawn) #2 “Before The

Next Teardrop Falls” (Freddy Fender) #3 “(Hey Won”t You

Play) Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song” (B.J.

Thomas …geezuz, a long freakin” title…c”mon, B.J.!)

Wayman Tisdale

So I”m listening to a jazz station the other day and here is

Wayman with a new CD and a great knockoff of Earth, Wind &

Fire”s “Can”t Hide Love.” And I thought, heck, I forgot that

Wayman Tisdale, former NBA ballplayer, was into the jazz

scene, big time. Tisdale, the 6”9″ 260 lb. center-forward out of

Oklahoma had a decent career (though many would say he was

an underachiever), averaging 15.3 ppg for his 12 campaigns.

Tisdale played with Indiana, Sacramento, and Phoenix. He had

back-to-back 20-point seasons with the Kings. But hell, my man

Wayman has had a cool life. Do you think he cares he wasn”t a

perennial All-Star? I don”t.

Michael Jackson

As reported by Richard Johnson in the New York Post, Michael

Jackson is having financial problems (though they will be easily

rectified when he sells his Beatles song catalogue, as rumored,

back to McCartney for about $700 million).

Johnson reports that Jackson”s ranch “costs $10 million a year to

maintain and his personal security, make-up, clothing and other

personal needs costs somewhere between $10,000 and $15,000 a

day.”

Wolf!

In central Stockholm the other day, a wolf was sighted, the first

such incident in over 20 years. The animal was not captured

(actually, the police let it get away…in what could prove to be a

controversial move). So what”s going on? Was this wolf sent by

Moscow to scout out Stockholm”s defenses? [Of course, there

are none, but when planning an attack it is still always good to

sniff around.] Or, as Johnny Mac told me, was this wolf simply

after some of Sweden”s “tasty government benefits?”

Baltimore Orioles Quiz Answers: 1) BA: Ken Singleton (”77)

and Robby Alomar (”96) hit .328. 2) Games won, season: Steve

Stone, 25 in 1980. 3) Most RBI, season: Rafael Palmeiro, 142

(”96). 4) Last 20-game winner: Mike Boddicker, 1984. No,

Mussina never won 20.

Next Bar Chat, Friday.