Who Should Be In?

Who Should Be In?

Chicago White Sox (1901 – ) Quiz: 1) Most hits, career? 2)

Most home runs, season? 3) What 3 pitchers won 20-games at

least once in the 70s? 4) Last World Series for the Sox?

Answers below.

Johnny Mac”s Hall of Fame Debate…Second Basemen

Here”s a brief history of four players…all second basemen, all

obviously good players, and each one should be recognizable to

even the casual fan as they are “modern” players (only one came

up prior to 1960). For the sake of this exercise, I am going to

call them players A, B, C, and D, but will identify them later in

the story. In this group you will find only one Hall of Famer,

although all are eligible for the Hall. The other three have failed

to get the required votes to even stay on the ballot, and must wait

for the Veterans Committee to see about possible enshrinement.

I would think only one of those three has a shot at eventually

getting in, but even he might not make it. So here goes.

Player A: An anomaly in the modern game, this player came up

at 20 years old and played his entire 19-year career with the same

team. He never played another position other than second for

even an inning during that time. He was a good, steady fielder

who won 3 Gold Gloves and turned more than his share of DPs.

At the plate, he gave you decent average (.276) with excellent

power for a second-sacker (244 career homers). His near 2400

hits, combined with 1200 walks, gave him an exceptional

lifetime on-base average of .363. That made him a good run

scorer, as his near 1400 total would attest. He even managed to

drive in over 1000, putting him in pretty rarified air amongst 2nd

basemen. He could steal a base now and then and hit 420

doubles for good measure. He won a World Series when he was

27, and his team contended for a few years after, but only made

the post-season once more.

Player B: He also came up at twenty, but his team had an

established second baseman, so they traded him after only 30

games. He stepped right into the lineup, making the All-Star

team in his first two seasons (he would eventually make 4 more),

and the team made it to the World Series his first three. While

losing that initial campaign, the team won the Series the next two

years and he remained a fixture at second for 13 seasons. He

made a few stops late in his career, managing to appear in 2 more

Series. His career numbers are very close to Player A, except for

power. He had exactly the same lifetime BA of .276, with an

even better on-base pct. of .373. He collected 2210 hits, 316

doubles, walked 1240 times, and scored over 1200 runs. While

he didn”t go deep often (only 54 homers), he was a better base

stealer, accumulating 271. Though never a Gold Glover, he was

regarded as a good fielder. He is currently a major league coach

and nobody will be surprised if he ends up with a managing job

in the near future.

Player C: Probably the least well remembered of our quartet,

Player C nonetheless had quite a career for himself. Breaking in

with a good club, he went to the post-season two of his first 3

years, making 2 All-Star squads. After 5 productive years and

another All-Star nod, he was traded in his prime to a contending

team, where he remained 10 seasons, making an additional 3 All-

Star squads. He helped his club to 3 post-season appearances,

where, to put it mildly, neither he nor his team distinguished

themselves. In fact, his team had a total of 6 games where the

opposition was in a must-win or be eliminated situation, and his

club lost all 6, some in spectacularly crushing fashion. He

nonetheless was a good player for a long time, winning 4 Gold

Gloves over a career that featured a .266 BA, a fine .371 on-base

pct., with an excellent .424 slugging average. He amassed over

1800 hits, 1000 runs, 1000 walks, with 224 homers and 320

doubles. He was an excellent power man for the position, even

leading the league one year in slugging while sharing the home

run title. (OK, there is an * for this particular season, but

everyone else had the same chance he did.)

Player D: Like Player A, this fellow came up as a kid,

established himself as a regular by age 20, and remained his

entire career with the same team. Never all that much of a stick

man, he did collect 2000 hits and almost 300 doubles to go with

a .260 career average. He rarely walked, which kept his career

on-base pct. a shade below .300. Never known for his power, he

did occasionally jack one out when it counted, and, to be honest,

he was hurt by his home park, among the worst in the league for

hitters. He also batted down in the order, where taking a walk

ahead of the pitcher”s spot was not always good baseball. That

being said, a .299 career on-base pct. is below average. In the

field, he was exceptional. Garnering 8 Gold Gloves, he probably

has the overall finest fielding stats of any second baseman in

history. That earned him 7 trips to the mid-summer classic in his

12 seasons as a regular. He went to the World Series and won as

a 23-year-old, but didn”t get back for 10 years, by which time he

was basically a sub.

There you have our four “mystery men”…although I”m sure

more than a few of you have figured it out already. As I said,

only one is currently in the Hall, with our other 3 the longest of

long shots. Now I don”t know, but I would put the competition

among A, B, and C, with D a bit outside due to his lack of

offensive skills. Remember, our first three guys all could field,

maybe a shade below Player D, but very good nonetheless.

As you might now have guessed from my tone, only Player D is

in the Hall.

“Ed, the envelope please.”

Player A. Lou Whitaker

Player B. Willie Randolph

Player C. Bobby Grich

Player D. Bill Mazeroski

Look, this isn”t meant as a swipe at Maz.he was a helluva

player and maybe the best fielder for his position ever. But the

Hall of Fame? [Ed. And here come the e-mails from Pittsburgh!]

You would really need to convince me that his fielding was so

valuable as to make up for his stick. And just how much better

was he than the other 3 guys? Enough to make him a plaque,

while the others couldn”t even pull 5% of the vote? I don”t think

so. Look, Garry Maddox and Paul Blair were as graceful and

proficient in center as any players who ever lived, but don”t look

for them in Cooperstown anytime soon. You need to do more.

Granted, second is a key defensive position, but the true greats

gave you production at the bat as well. One home run, no matter

how famous, does not a Hall of Fame career make.

A follow-up for those of you who aren”t walking baseball

encyclopedias.my post-season comments regarding Grich refer

to the 1982 and 1986 Angels. They were up 2-0 in a best of five

against the Brewers (the famous “Harvey”s Wall Bangers” of

Molitor, Yount, Cecil Cooper, Gorman Thomas, et al) and lost

the next three. The ”86 squad had a 3-1 lead in a best of seven

against the equally ill-fated Red Sox. The famous 2 out, 2-strike

homer of Dave Henderson against the late Donnie Moore began

that 3-game slide. Moore committed suicide years later, and

folklore would have it that the Henderson homer was at least a

contributing factor. Separately, the * refers to the strike season

of 1981, where Grich tied for the league lead in homers with 22.

And lastly, I also looked for someone who was Mazeroski”s

equal, or, rather, clone. Frank White.

White: 2324 games…7859 at-bats…906 runs…886 RBIs…407

doubles…160 homers…178 steals…412 walks… .255 BA.

.293 on-base pct..8 Gold Gloves…a World Championship

.and numerous post-season appearances.

Mazeroski: 2163 games…7755 at-bats…769 runs…853 RBIs.

294 doubles…138 homers…27 steals…447 walks… .260 BA.

.299 on-base avg…8 Gold Gloves…2 World Championships

(though he only went to the plate once in ”71).

That”s pretty close, huh? White had better speed, a little more

pop.Maz had a slightly higher BA and on-base pct., but

negligible, really. Now White was a good player, but I don”t

recall seeing the “Frank White for Hall of Fame” bandwagon

passing by.

Lastly, for you trivia buffs, you”ll recall that White was the only

graduate of the Royals “Baseball Academy” to make a mark in

the Big Leagues.

Golf Tidbit

So who came up with the maxim, “Ya drive for show and ya putt

for dough”? It was South African, and 4-time British Open

winner, Bobby Locke. Locke also won 7 times on the PGA Tour

in 1947 and twice in ”48, but the PGA began to make things

increasingly difficult for him, banning him from time to time, for

not playing more events. [Locke would only come to the States

in the summer.] Of course, what the Tour was really upset about

was the fact that he was taking the Americans to the cleaner, so

they came up with an easy excuse.

Top 3 songs for the week of 5/13/72: #1 “The First Time Ever I

Saw Your Face” (Roberta Flack…sing to me, Roberta) #2 “I

Gotcha” (Joe Tex) #3 “Oh Girl” (Chi-Lites)

Chicago White Sox Quiz Answers: 1) Most hits, career: Luke

Appling, 2749. “Old Aches and Pains” played from 1930-50 and

was a career .310 hitter. 2) HRs, season: Albert Belle, 49 (”98).

3) 20-wins, 70s: Wilbur Wood (1971-74), Stan Bahnsen (”72),

Jim Kaat (”74-”75). 4) The White Sox last won the Series in 1917

.while the Cubs last triumphed in 1908; not much of a

difference but all you hear of is the Cubs” futility.

Wilbur Wood was a classic. The knuckleballer was just

moseying along in his career, which began in 1961, when after a

1970 campaign where he went 9-13 in relief with 21 saves, the

Sox decided to turn him into a starter…and a workhorse, the

likes of which we won”t see again, given baseball”s current

trends.

1971: 22-13, 334 IP, 1.91 ERA, 7 SHO.

1972: 24-17, 377! IP, 2.51 ERA, 8 SHO, 49 starts.

*The Sox had a 3-man rotation in ”72; Wood, Bahnsen and Tom

Bradley. Collectively they started 130 of 154 games (the

schedule was reduced by an early-season strike).

1973: 24-20, 359 IP (381 hits), 48 starts, 3.46 ERA.

1974: 20-19, 320 IP, 42 starts, 3.60 ERA.

1975: 16-20, 291 IP, 43 starts, but the ERA was now 4.11.

Wood finished out with a 164-156 career mark.

Next Bar Chat, Friday. SHARK!!!!!!