NHL Quiz: 1) Who led the league in scoring last year? 2) Name
the teams Scotty Bowman led to the Stanley Cup? 3) How many
did he win in total? 4) Following are the initials for the top five
in scoring for the 1969-70 season. Name ‘em. [B.O., P.E., S.M.,
P.G., W.T.] Answers below.
Who’s In / Who’s Not
When you think of a Hall of Fame, you usually think of those
who have been super successful in their field of endeavor. Of
course most of us think of Halls related to sports and in the
“performer” category, it is assumed that the selection committee
has done its job in honoring those who truly excelled.
But for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, obviously, things are
different. Aside from those who scored a number of Top Tens in
their career, a few artists have been selected because of their
creativity, even if they didn’t necessarily meet with commercial
success.
Here at Bar Chat, as you’ve noticed your editor is a 60s music
fan – defined as 1963-75 by most experts – and in looking at the
recent nominees to the Hall of Fame for 2003, I was dismayed by
a few of the picks, which got me looking at the whole list, going
back to the first inductees from 1986.
Following is a list of those now in the Rock Hall of Fame who
made their names in the 60s and 70s. You won’t see folks like
Elvis, Rick Nelson or Fats Domino because much of their
success was in the 50s.
I break the lists down into “R&B” and “Rock,” though the Hall
of Fame doesn’t do so, and I am listing the inductees in general
order of their enshrinement. We’ll discuss it on the other side.
R&B Inductees
Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
Smokey Robinson
The Supremes
Otis Redding
The Temptations
Stevie Wonder
The Four Tops
The Impressions
Wilson Pickett
Ike and Tina Turner
Booker T. and the M.G.’s
The Isley Brothers
Sly and the Family Stone
Al Green
Martha and the Vandellas
Gladys Knight and the Pips
The Shirelles
The Jackson Five
Parliament & Funkadelic
Curtis Mayfield
The Staple Singers
Earth, Wind & Fire
Michael Jackson
Isaac Hayes
Rock Inductees
Roy Orbison
The Beach Boys
The Beatles
Bob Dylan
Dion
The Rolling Stones
The Four Seasons
The Kinks
Simon and Garfunkel
The Who
The Byrds
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
The Yardbirds
Cream
Creedence Clearwater Revival
The Doors
Van Morrison
The Animals
The Band
The Grateful Dead
Elton John
John Lennon
Rod Stewart
The Allman Brothers Band
Janis Joplin
Neil Young
Frank Zappa
Led Zeppelin
David Bowie
Jefferson Airplane
Pink Floyd
The Velvet Underground
The (Young) Rascals
The Bee Gees
Buffalo Springfield
Crosby, Stills and Nash
Joni Mitchell
The Eagles
Fleetwood Mac
The Mamas and the Papas
Santana
Gene Vincent
Billy Joel
Paul McCartney
Del Shannon
Dusty Springfield
Bruce Springsteen
Eric Clapton
Lovin’ Spoonful
Bonnie Raitt
James Taylor
Aerosmith
Queen
Paul Simon
Steely Dan
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Gene Pitney
Ramones
Talking Heads
The Righteous Brothers*
The Police*
The Clash*
AC/DC*
Elvis Costello*
[* The last five are being inducted early in 2003]
So, let’s start the debate. Let me throw out some names that
aren’t on either list, again, focusing on those who had the bulk of
their success in the 60s and 70s. And since the Clash, AC/DC
and the Police are largely 80s acts, you will appreciate that some
of the following must be worried they’ll ever make it, as the
Righteous Brothers undoubtedly were before receiving the
good news of their selection in the last few weeks.
Not In the Hall of Fame
The Association
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
Badfinger
Bad Company
Blood, Sweat and Tears
Bread [Don’t laugh same with two down ]
Jerry Butler
The Carpenters
Chicago
The Dave Clark Five
Petula Clark
The Doobie Brothers
The 5th Dimension
Roberta Flack
Peter Frampton
Gerry and the Pacemakers
The Grass Roots
Grand Funk
The Guess Who
Herman’s Hermits
The Hollies
Tommy James / The Shondells
Tom Jones
K.C. and the Sunshine Band
Kiss
Lynyrd Skynyrd
The Monkees [The Clash?!]
The Moody Blues
The O’Jays
Paul Revere and the Raiders
Johnny Rivers
Boz Skaggs
Sonny and Cher
The Spinners
The Turtles
War
Dionne Warwick
Barry White
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There you have it. Now don’t laugh about acts like the
Carpenters or Tom Jones. If you are going to include someone
like Gene Pitney (deserving) or Joni Mitchell (ughh), you can’t
just say the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is for classic “rock”
acts. The Hall of Fame is for acts you’ve seen over the years on
the Billboard Rock and Roll charts. At least that’s my way of
thinking. But folks, some of the artsy/fartsy selections that have
been made thus far, like Frank Zappa (not even a Top 30 sorry
Harry K.) and the Velvet Underground, are questionable. You
won’t find any of this crap in a sports Hall of Fame.
Don’t worry, I don’t like half of the acts I listed in the “Not In”
category, either, but all deserve consideration, that’s for sure.
Look at someone like the Spinners. If you could buy just one
Greatest Hits album, theirs would be as good as any. And how
can Dionne Warwick not be in? Gladys Knight instead? Gimme
a break. At the same time, if you’re going to induct the Mamas
and the Papas, how can you not have Tommy James and the
Shondells? If you have the Rascals (very deserving), why not
the Guess Who?
But the two omissions that really stand out in my book are the
Dave Clark Five and Petula Clark. How the hell can they both
not be in the Hall of Fame?! It’s bullship, I tell ya.
By the way, AC/DC? Not one Top 20. The Clash? Oh, forget
it. Now print this out and I’m sure you’ll have ample fodder for
hours and hours at your favorite tavern or at Thanksgiving
dinner.
Stuff
–Wow, that was a great football game between Ohio State and
Michigan. But as for the party/riot afterwards, it’s not the first
time Buckeye students have acted like pigs. I loved what my
buddy Johnny Mac said. “So I’m having some coffee, reading
the Sunday paper with the morning news on the tube have the
sound turned down look at footage of some god-awful rioting,
cars burning, real freakin’ mess. My initial thought was, can’t
this garbage in Nigeria ever stop? Only it wasn’t Kaduna, it was
Columbus, Ohio. What a disgrace.”
–Two bowl teams that should be real entertaining are Pitt and
Penn State. Pitt almost made me look like a genius last
Thursday. They’re an exciting club. And what more can you
say about Penn State running back Larry Johnson? He became
the 9th back in Division I-A history to run for 2,000 yards
(though the others played an 11-game schedule, not 12) and
Johnson had 279 yards in just the first half against Michigan
State on Saturday. [As for MSU, though, nice friggin’ effort.
You should have your scholarships revoked. No doubt a good
Irish rugby squad would have kicked your butts as well, and
without pads.]
–After making fun of North Carolina State the other day, we
congratulate them on their win over Florida State. Grudgingly.
–Rutgers amassed a whopping 18 yards on 27 carries in its 42-0
loss to Notre Dame. That means in its 8-game losing streak,
Rutgers has gained 235 yards on the ground in 253 attempts.
–Hey, Boise State is #16 and #19 in the major polls.
Congratulations, whatever your nickname is.
–Since 1978, the NCAA has had some sort of attendance rule in
effect for those schools playing Division I-A football. Basically,
it’s been ignored, but today, if a school isn’t averaging 15,000
fans at its home football games by the end of the 2003 season,
the NCAA can drop the school to a lower level in all sports.
Right now the following 10 are averaging under this minimum
for 2002:
San Jose State, Ball State, Wyoming, Troy State, SUNY-Buffalo,
La.-Monroe, Arkansas State, Idaho, Kent State, Eastern
Michigan.
Of course to drop a school down a level could severely impact its
academic as well as athletic reputation. One institution, La.-
Lafayette, installed a petting zoo in the parking lot in order to
attract families to its game. So far, it’s helped, though a number
of children have lost some limbs. [Source: NY Times]
–Ordinarily I wouldn’t comment on local high school football
results, but here in New Jersey, Millburn just achieved its first
five-win season since 1973. How they did it is the fun part.
Millburn was trailing Montville by 14-10 with under four
minutes to play in the game when they drove to the Montville 9-
yard-line, only to fumble with 1:31 left.
So Montville merely needed to run out the clock. But Millburn
forced a punt and took over at the Montville 31 with 19 seconds
to go, no timeouts. A 19-yard pass play took it to the 12 and the
quarterback, Doug Britton, was able to spike it. My friend Jim
Connelly of The Item then picks up the story.
“A Britton pass intended for Craig Parcells bounced off the
senior tight end’s hands, leaving Milburn with time for only one
play as 7 seconds remained on the clock.
“What transpired next will long be remembered Britton passed
the ball into the end zone, where it bounced off Montville
defensive back Brett Lurie and then off the helmet and shoulder
pads of d-back Ross Tanner. Parcells dove for the pigskin,
coming up with the ball just six inches from the ground for an
improbable game-winning touchdown.”
So why would I bother reporting this, as exciting as it may have
been for those in attendance? Because the Craig Parcells
mentioned above is former New York Giants coach Bill
Parcells’s nephew! And now you know, the rest of the story.
–Wake Forest wins a National Championship! Sure, it’s field
hockey, but I’ll drink to that!
–If you haven’t already done so, it’s still not too late to jump
back on the New York Jets bandwagon, just like we’ve all done
here in the home office of StocksandNews.
–College Basketball
Sports Illustrated Men’s Top 20
1. Arizona folks, it’s already over. They are loaded.
2. Kansas
3. Oklahoma
4. Florida
5. Duke
6. Texas
7. Pittsburgh
8. Alabama
9. Xavier
10. Georgia
11. Michigan State
12. Connecticut
13. Oregon
14. Western Kentucky (AZ kicked their butts Saturday)
15. Gonzaga
16. Kentucky
17. Virginia
18. Marquette
19. Villanova
20. Tulsa
Sports Illustrated Women’s Top 10
1. Duke (beat Tennessee on Sunday)
2. Tennessee
3. LSU
4. Connecticut
5. Kansas State
6. Georgia
7. Texas Tech
8. Texas
9. Stanford
10. Vanderbilt
*In men’s play this weekend, I had to take note of two scores:
La-Lafayette defeated Mississippi State and Prairie View A&M
beat Houston! Guy Lewis must be spinning in his grave.
–I told you all in the 11/14 edition of Bar Chat that the Miss
World pageant would be a mess. But I’m ticked StockandNews
wasn’t selected to airlift the girls to London!
–And now for your Wyoming wildlife update. 31 wolves were
reintroduced in Yellowstone National Park in 1995/96 and now
there are about 187. At that rate there could be over 6,700 by
2015 and we could stick them on the Canadian and Mexican
borders as part of homeland security.
–Python Update: Two very important items to report on. First,
Samantha, a 26-foot(!), 275-lb. python that was the largest snake
in captivity died at the Bronx Zoo the other day. Samantha was
estimated to be 29 years old, which means she was born at the
height of Watergate and the bear market of 1973-74.
But here’s another python story, and this is gruesome. The
London Times reports that a 20-footer may be responsible for
swallowing a 7-year-old boy in South Africa. After constricting
the child, it would have swallowed him whole. The boy was
gathering mangos with other kids when he disappeared.
–New Jersey is exploring the use of contraceptives to control its
exploding bear population now up to 2,500 in the state. It
found out about the success that Bear Country USA in Rapid
City, SD was having with this method and now it wants to try it
here. Well, I have to tell you. Last year I drove through Bear
Country and it scared the crap out of me, especially when I was
surrounded by 12 bruins and I didn’t have any garbage to offer
them.
–Most of you have probably heard of the lawsuit filed in New
York by some chubby kids who blame McDonald’s for being fat.
Here are a few quotes from a New York Post article by John
Lehmann.
“(One of the mothers), Ruth Rhymes, claimed she wouldn’t have
let her son gorge himself on McDonald’s calorie-crammed food
if she knew it contained high levels of fat and salt.
“ ‘ I always believed McDonald’s food was healthy for my son,’
she said in papers filed in Manhattan federal court.
“Two of the children, Jazlyn Bradley, 19, who weighs 270
pounds, and her 17-year-old sister, Shakima Bradley, 215
pounds, were sitting in court when McDonald’s lawyer Brad
Lerman scoffed at the suit, saying, ‘People don’t go to sleep thin
and wake up obese.’”
Top 3 songs for the week of 11/26/77: #1 “You Light Up My
Life” (Debby Boone) #2 “Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue”
(Crystal Gayle) #3 “How Deep Is Your Love” (Bee Gees)
this Top 3 is an example of why I say that real music died in
about 1975.
NHL Quiz Answers: 1) Jarome Iginla, Calgary, led the league in
scoring last season with 96 points. He was also the only player
to score 50 goals (52). [Girls, wow your boyfriends with this
knowledge.] 2 and 3) The incredible Scotty Bowman coached 3
different teams to a total of 9 Stanley Cups. Montreal (‘72-’73,
‘75-’79), Pittsburgh (‘91-’92), Detroit (‘96-’98, ‘01-’02). 4) The
top five in points in 1969-70 were Bobby Orr (120), Phil
Esposito (99), Stan Mikita (86 loved this guy), Phil Goyette (78
if you got this one, you’re good), Walt Tkaczuk (77).
Next Bar Chat, Thursday.
